Werewolf: Round 4

Vapid Seraphim wrote:

Zed Di Dragon wrote:There's nothing funny about it. Jman knows both baners, so clearly he knows that the other baner was the one who was attacked that night when nobody died just a while ago.

That is, he knew which baner was being protected that night.

Fie, fie!

If that were truly the case, it would rely on circumstances SO EGREGIOUS to merit further investigation of this Jman character. You insist that the wolves SOMEHOW dug up the identity of a baner out of the blue one night, and SOMEHOW both baners were coordinated to bane said baner on the exact night of the attack, only for the wolves to relent off of their attack of said baner in the nights afterwards. The chances for this to happen INDEPENDENT of rigging are obviously incredibly low (I'm no statistician, my friends, but certainly below 15%.) If what you insist is true, then statistically Jman has a VERY HIGH chance of being the veiled puppeteer manipulating both sides into a believable situation to reinforce his innocence, render our baners impotent, AND slowly pick off the best of our villagers, one by one.

I thank you, fine fellow, for providing me the circumstances to view the scene in this light, for you have buttressed my suspicions I've possessed for this Jman. Hence my vote shifts to him, and I advise all you townsfolk of good, all you who insist that PEACE and ORDER be restored to our community do the same.

Well I have some reservations about accusing jman also if your accusing Jman highlight your vote.

Yes, ladies and gents, you heard right, I am now back in charge of things and the game will once again be under my control.

Addressing some concerns:

Risque wrote:So, um, Providence? Would it be possible to get a "death story" now? Per chance? I would love to know how it went down.

I understand Snail didn't write out death sequences to the extent that I had previously written others, but if you were among those who died during my leave of absence, worry not, for the mysterious circumstances surrounding your demise will be elucidated during the final story-closing posts in a series of revelations. Your deaths now all hold important key plot elements to the final overarching story. As the game closes, all will be revealed. Just sit tight and enjoy the chaos.

chaosfaction wrote:

Vapid Seraphim wrote:

Zed Di Dragon wrote:There's nothing funny about it. Jman knows both baners, so clearly he knows that the other baner was the one who was attacked that night when nobody died just a while ago.

That is, he knew which baner was being protected that night.

Fie, fie!

If that were truly the case, it would rely on circumstances SO EGREGIOUS to merit further investigation of this Jman character. You insist that the wolves SOMEHOW dug up the identity of a baner out of the blue one night, and SOMEHOW both baners were coordinated to bane said baner on the exact night of the attack, only for the wolves to relent off of their attack of said baner in the nights afterwards. The chances for this to happen INDEPENDENT of rigging are obviously incredibly low (I'm no statistician, my friends, but certainly below 15%.) If what you insist is true, then statistically Jman has a VERY HIGH chance of being the veiled puppeteer manipulating both sides into a believable situation to reinforce his innocence, render our baners impotent, AND slowly pick off the best of our villagers, one by one.

I thank you, fine fellow, for providing me the circumstances to view the scene in this light, for you have buttressed my suspicions I've possessed for this Jman. Hence my vote shifts to him, and I advise all you townsfolk of good, all you who insist that PEACE and ORDER be restored to our community do the same.

Well I have some reservations about accusing jman also if your accusing Jman highlight your vote.

Look back ol' chap, I modified my prior.
And in regard to potential... Reservations, you might possess, I strongly advise you to discard them behind you. Perhaps, it is becoming of my fresh status into this game to view the proceedings in this new light, but a light it is, order, out of the entropy this society wields to grope blindly at the truth stifled under Jman! When we afford our absolute trust, the benefit of the doubt unto a person, when we turn our backs to the truth in pursuit of the fleeting dreams of yesteryear, we are BLIND! Blind I say, to what is going on right before us! We have been offered an opportunity to wield the blade of logic and empirical evidence in pursuit of our suspect, an opportunity which, upon reviewing the prior chapters of this game, has been largely absent.

Let us not squander the opportunity.

If you are really going to waste a day as important as this to lynch a common villager, then there is NO hope left and we might as well quit now.

Seriously, the other days were one thing, but TODAY is VITAL if the villagers could even HOPE to win. I strongly suggest not jumping on the bandwagon on me or else I will die and come back as a common villager like I have the past 2 games and you will see the baner die after me and then what, asides from everyone being picked off one by one as the most helpful villager is already dead facepalm'ing in the background.

I have suspicions on wolves, but I am not voting decisively until I am SURE it is the Beast. There is no room for shooting in the dark today. Trust me guys.

Jman wrote:If you are really going to waste a day as important as this to lynch a common villager, then there is NO hope left and we might as well quit now.

Seriously, the other days were one thing, but TODAY is VITAL if the villagers could even HOPE to win. I strongly suggest not jumping on the bandwagon on me or else I will die and come back as a common villager like I have the past 2 games and you will see the baner die after me and then what, asides from everyone being picked off one by one as the most helpful villager is already dead facepalm'ing in the background.

I have suspicions on wolves, but I am not voting decisively until I am SURE it is the Beast. There is no room for shooting in the dark today. Trust me guys.

You are the dark. You expect us to trust in you, that you will somehow guide us to our salvation while you have demonstrated that your "Suspicions," which unto this point we have largely followed, are fallible at best. Suspicion breeds hysteria and chaos. Out of reason emerges order. For our own sake, we cannot tread down that road any longer.

To be honest you speak quite well and you make good points but Its quite outlandish to think someone would sacrifice 3 of there own for some trust

chaosfaction wrote:To be honest you speak quite well and you make good points but Its quite outlandish to think someone would sacrifice 3 of there own for some trust

Outlandish? Naivety, naivety. Look, look upon who has died! Two virtual inactives, and a seeming fluke right-off. And all normal wolves. Do these monstrous beasts exalt the ties of fraternity like you and I? NO. Would these monstrous beasts sever sections-... ever better, INESSENTIAL SECTIONS of the periphery of their own bodies to further the torso? YES. "Inactives wolves," I say snidely, what a mockery of a concept. They cut off, their, "Inactive wolves," virtual DEAD WEIGHT upon themselves to further their goals. Were there a dead devil or beast among the bunch, the situation would be significantly altered, but at the moment the sacrifice of these, "Inactive wolves," seems incredibly plausible, if not a certainty.

Where was this kid when i was making that arguement last week? Haha.

My usual suspects list


Jakob
Zed
Jman
Vapid
Shartoose

Will vote tomorrow sometime.

I have actually been suspecting jman for a while now. He's quick to suspect other's of being werewolves, myself included. Also, the scries happen to die consecutively after 3 wolves have been killed and jman gained everyone's trust. Although he says it is silly to hand over 3 wolves to be killed in order to gain our trust, I don't believe it is. For that, I vote for jman. Also, the log of who has been online may not entirely be accurate because people can turn off their online status.

Slade wrote:Where was this kid when i was making that arguement last week? Haha.

My usual suspects list


Jakob
Zed
Jman
Vapid
Shartoose

Will vote tomorrow sometime.

Hey...my username isn't THAT hard to spell

chartreuse wrote:I have actually been suspecting jman for a while now. He's quick to suspect other's of being werewolves, myself included. Also, the scries happen to die consecutively after 3 wolves have been killed and jman gained everyone's trust. Although he says it is silly to hand over 3 wolves to be killed in order to gain our trust, I don't believe it is. For that, I vote for jman. Also, the log of who has been online may not entirely be accurate because people can turn off their online status.

An astute observation, madam, but at the time an impossibility. You see, when a person is logged on, "Hidden," Their status on the memberlist updates to: "Last time online: Unknown." Therefore, it is nigh impossible that a hidden player enter without capturing notice. You are correct though that some additional persons could be on: The ones whom maintain a hidden online status indefinitely. Of them, the only player in the current game is Zed Di Dragon. So that just sets our list up one man, whom has already shown himself to be an individual of questionable intent.

My votes for Captainkraft he's the only person we have more than speculation on.
I.E. the 75% chance that he's a wolf

Vapid - while you make speak convincingly, you speak quite incorrectly. You are simply raising arguments against me that were already raised multiple times in the past that I feel have been put down accordingly. Think what you will, but I am no mutt. If you are going to all vote to lynch me, do what you must. However, I'll be disappointed as I can really help at this point in the game.

Good luck guys.

Still researching in regards to the beast's identity.

One other thing - WHEN you do kill me and see that I am a common villager, you will have no choice BUT to trust me. Hence, I am literally going to guide you in advance and provide instructions for when I am dead.

What I've come up with so far (NOT FINAL, OPEN TO FURTHER CHANGES):

Still not voting quite yet. Got quite a bit of thinking to do.

I too suspect jman.

to those who think sacrificing 3 wolves is stupid... well it's been working out for him so far

Alright everyone, coming back out of the dark again. Some interesting stuff has been going down these last few days.

I have a rising suspicion of jman under these circumstances.

As jman pointed out, the other banner is intact known by the wolves, and may very well die on the next night. However, the wolves have no reason to kill the other baner because he is useless alone. I know for a fact that the remaining baner protected ostentation in the night, so we know the wolves are voting in large enough numbers to overpower at least one baner.

I also know that the last two killed in the night were close allies with and were in direct communication with jman.

I ALSO know that the only one that knew ostentatious identity was jman himself. So unless the devil investigated ostentation, which is quite likely btw, jman is in fact in cahoots with the wolves.

You should see how convinced I am that jman is too big of a potential threat to let go, for it was I that most valiantly defended him earlier on. Perhaps I am a hypocrite for going against myself in saying that jman is too risky to be left alive, but I feel better late then never is the correct plan of action for this day.

Forgive me Jman, but you must die.

NOT THE WAREWOLF wrote:I too suspect jman.

to those who think sacrificing 3 wolves is stupid... well it's been working out for him so far

so says the wolf, eh?

EDIT: I'm actually fine letting you all kill me. Though it will lead to Bobabow dying, and possibly the death of the villagers as a whole, it will unconditionally force you to trust me once my death substantiates my claims of innocence.

So yes, good luck guys. At least I tried.

with regards to jman's recent post:

1. Why did you just reveal the almost 100% sure villagers to the wolves?

2. I don't have any idea how you're so sure i'm a wolf.

NOT THE WAREWOLF wrote:with regards to jman's recent post:

1. Why did you just reveal the almost 100% sure villagers to the wolves?

2. I don't have any idea how you're so sure i'm a wolf.

1. Because at this point the more villagers that are in network, the sooner the wolves die. Regardless of if the villagers know each other, the wolves know all the villagers. It's for the good of the people's sake.

2. Process of elimination my friend. I'm not 100% sure, but I have a good feeling.

chaosfaction wrote:My votes for Captainkraft he's the only person we have more than speculation on.
I.E. the 75% chance that he's a wolf

I can see your motivation for that. That is the comfortable choice, after all, isn't it? To leave the ringleader of it all alive to pose the wolves a minor setback, perhaps to let the shrouded horrors steal away my light in the night or claim our last baner. To let Jman the opportunity to reinstate the regime of "Trust" and "Suspicion," or dare I say, "Duplicity," and "Terror!" Look at this case with your own eyes, good villagers! Look at how there are those whom attempt to lure us into COMPLACENCY, the offering of pawns for our rooks and bishops! We cannot accept the potential of an easy capture in return for our control of the board! WE must regain control, let OUR minds dissolve the facades of these malefactors, NOT the under-the-table dealings these specters advocate.

We must not yield.

Oops. That's awkward. So yes, jman let it out. I am in fact the last baner. Didn't see his post when I wrote my last post.

So jman, I hope you get out all your guidance before tomorrow at 7, because, despite our past alliance, I have the growing suspicion that I have been duped, mostly because of the fact that ostentation and alpha died so close together, and the only ones that knew ostentatious identity are me and you. (not forgetting the devil btw)

But I'm sorry. I don't think it is safe that you be left alive, even though all the damage is mostly done, and now I will surely die in the next night, unless the wolves just want to taunt me by leaving me alive, as I am now powerless alone.

Jman wrote:

What I've come up with so far (NOT FINAL, OPEN TO FURTHER CHANGES):

Still not voting quite yet. Got quite a bit of thinking to do.

How do you know the wolves voted for bobabow? Also, you're very quick to suspect other people...especially people who are villagers

Bobabow wrote:Oops. That's awkward. So yes, jman let it out. I am in fact the last baner. Didn't see his post when I wrote my last post.

So jman, I hope you get out all your guidance before tomorrow at 7, because, despite our past alliance, I have the growing suspicion that I have been duped, mostly because of the fact that ostentation and alpha died so close together, and the only ones that knew ostentatious identity are me and you. (not forgetting the devil btw)

But I'm sorry. I don't think it is safe that you be left alive, even though all the damage is mostly done, and now I will surely die in the next night, unless the wolves just want to taunt me by leaving me alive, as I am now powerless alone.

Don't worry about it. I am not safe to be left alive I guess. However, I hope you realize that you're also dooming yourself lol. We can make Half Villager - Half Baner babies in the graveyard though.

Also, when I can die I can finally stop having to pay attention to this damn time consuming game

NOT THE WAREWOLF wrote:I too suspect jman.

to those who think sacrificing 3 wolves is stupid... well it's been working out for him so far

:/ if it was working he wouldn't be accused by everybody

Jman wrote:

Bobabow wrote:Oops. That's awkward. So yes, jman let it out. I am in fact the last baner. Didn't see his post when I wrote my last post.

So jman, I hope you get out all your guidance before tomorrow at 7, because, despite our past alliance, I have the growing suspicion that I have been duped, mostly because of the fact that ostentation and alpha died so close together, and the only ones that knew ostentatious identity are me and you. (not forgetting the devil btw)

But I'm sorry. I don't think it is safe that you be left alive, even though all the damage is mostly done, and now I will surely die in the next night, unless the wolves just want to taunt me by leaving me alive, as I am now powerless alone.

Don't worry about it. I am not safe to be left alive I guess. However, I hope you realize that you're also dooming yourself lol. We can make Half Villager - Half Baner babies in the graveyard though.

I'm dead anyways. And i know, I just wanna die already.

Wolves - I strongly commend you on raping my face with your secrecy.

Devil - God damn you HOW DO YOU FIND ALL OF THE IMPORTANT ROLES THE HELL IS THIS?

Beast - You chose a DAMN good Devil...

Vapid - First day playing and you kind of invariably screwed the villagers. At least you provided "good logic", which is better than random accusations I guess. Whenever people post using big words and puffed up claims everyone seems to poop themselves and think they're a prophet.

Villagers - Sorry about probably screwing you all over with that list, but nobody else was doing anything to help instead of just jumping on bandwagons so I did the best I could given the circumstances.